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ygz1992 發表於 2/9/2012 13:28:18 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式 IP:- 香港
本帖最後由 ygz1992 於 2012-9-2 16:59 編輯


某師兄於  詢眾要求...最強深涌鬼故再度上市...」帖內講鬼故,小弟表達一些看法,一不涉人身攻擊,二不單單打打,並沒有違反網規,何錯之有?某人硬說小弟不在現場,不能質疑,不能說三道四,堅持自己見到的是鬼。這本是沒有甚麼大不了,每個人都享有言論自由,堅持己見的自由。


與此同時,另一個網民耀仔0514開帖投訴本人「回帖帶有粗言穢語及字眼粗鄙」,本人看後於「詢眾要求...最強深涌鬼故再度上市...」帖148樓回帖如下:


Uncle, 曾蔭權在立法會答問大會公然講「九噏」,唐英年評論內地旅客被遺留街頭則講「吊吊揈」。曾蔭權、唐英年所說的是巿井之徒用詞,在下所講的「九嗡幾句」當然亦是巿井之徒用詞啦。

Uncle處事公平、洞察世情,沒有受到某人蠱惑,被他利用以修私怨,在下是佩服的。

某人幼稚、無聊、戅居、下作,意圖做道德塔利班、盲光社社長,投訴在下「回帖帶有粗言穢語及字眼粗鄙」,在下看到不禁笑到噴飯,幾乎連落咗肚嘅半條花頭梅仔都噴埋出來。

「好Q感性」的Q字是那一個中文字的委婉語呢。某人自己嫖完妓後即刻化身為道德塔利班,投訴在下睇四仔。出發點是甚麼?司馬昭之心,路人皆見嘞。」


某師兄看後自動對號入座,於156樓回覆本人如下:


「呀師兄...悟好某人呀...你不如話我呀...勇敢少少...
但係邊個首先幼稚、無聊、戅居、下作,意圖做道德塔利班、盲光社社長既呢
...???
咁如果師兄係話本人幼稚、無聊、戅居、下作,意圖做道德塔利班、盲光社社長
...
請列出邊句係小弟話你既...請找出証據支持...如果係有
...
本人原意每項支附200分陪罪又如何...


本人看後於162樓澄清如下:


「師兄,我話你太敏感,動不動就以為別人說你、單打你,事實證明你確是如此。

我所說的「某人」是誰?請看看這個帖「  投訴有某網友回帖帶有粗言穢語及字眼粗鄙!!!


某師兄對以上澄清視而不見,一不澄清自己誤會,二不道歉。這本來亦沒有甚麽大不了,況且這只是茶杯裏的風波。本來事情可以告一段落,但某師兄継續不停追問本人其他問題、指摘本人於其他帖內說話對他單打,如:


「鬼節你唔驚俾隻冒煙黑色水鬼拖你落海做替身咩...」。


本人又要一再澄清如下:


「1).我有我講經歷...師兄憑甚麼可以話你相信我見到既係螢火蟲...???

在124樓答咗你嘞。你可以講你的經歷,我不可以表達我的意見,你無嘢呀?

2).師兄所指我講既係癈話...究竟係邊句...邊段...???

「亦正如有些釣友...釣多條魚仔...就會也文也武一樣...」,誰是「有些釣友」,點樣「也文也武」法?這些說話與標題完全無關,算不算癈話?

3).師兄所指我文中提及既單單打打...單打誰人...有無証據...???


「我就未被公司派過去美國...英國...法國...澳洲等等地方工作過...更加未釣過大魚搵過大錢..」,這些說話算不算單打小弟吹牛?如果唔算,你說話嘅目的何在?

4.)師兄指我人身攻擊...那句攻擊...攻擊邊個...???

我在那裏指摘你人身攻擊?

5.)話我係你所釣既青班仔...咁係代表咩呢...???


我幾時話你係我所釣既青班仔,聽過乜嘢叫做「比喻」未?


6.)鬼節你唔驚俾隻冒煙黑色水鬼拖你落海做替身咩...呢句...我敢講...係魚樂網入面...除左我...我未發現過有其他師兄講過...你悟係講我...係講邊個...你個D就可以係開玩笑...???至少我有勇氣對號入座...


借題發揮,跟個網友開下玩笑啫,冒犯咗你啲乜嘢呢?你話見到如此這般的水鬼,我問個網友驚唔驚喺鬼節又見到如此這般的水鬼,單打你啲乜嘢呢?


本來事情又可以告一段落,但閣下向本人發出如下的一個帖:


174 樓問題我可以答: 投訴人絕非幻象兄,要求佢答似乎有點過份!巿井之徒用詞見怪不怪,因此,投訴亦不受理。當然,在有人身攻擊情況下,我一定會處理。
師兄:講故事啫,有需要搞到罵戰嗎?唔認同咪唔好睇囉!
網上融洽為大前題,何必斤斤計較?
煩請你給我一個"下台階",可以嗎?」


本人看後回覆如下:


Uncle乜連你都眼大睇過籠?

投訴指我「回帖帶有粗言穢語及字眼粗鄙」的是耀仔。雖然我在148樓以「某人」稱呼佢,明眼人都知是指佢啦。最強幻象自動對號入座,於156樓指摘我話佢「幼稚、無聊、戅居、下作」,要求我提出證據。我於162樓已解釋得很清楚。我於174樓要求佢回覆我有冇批評佢「幼稚、無聊、戅居、下作」,又有何不妥?

我於192樓已再一次釋出善意,明言奉上一條鍍金的下台階俾佢。換一個說法,即是唔需要佢就174樓的問題回覆。但佢唔領情噃,不斷提出新嘅問題要求我回答。答佢你又話我破壞和諧氣氛,唔答佢,佢又不停追問,誓要攞番個采。與此同時,啲旁邊鶴又單單打打、扇風點火。你係我,你會點做?


閣下看到後回應如下:


「你話我眼大睇過籠,耳聾,乜乜龍,乜乜㝫,乜乜隆 ~~~~點都好,無所謂..........

我只能講,你語指樓主要攞返個彩,追你答話,咁,你又咪係要攞彩?攪到有爭拗,事源從何開始,我不管,更無需查証。此帖我已看了多次。一時講你"信"鬼神,一時又話係"螢火蟲"。點點滴滴我亦不想再多講。本帖"故事"是真是假,不在話下,信則有,不信則無。你信的教,可以驅魔,樓主所信的是可以降魔。有需要辯駁嗎?出發點,娛已娛人啫!我鄭重要求,師兄在本帖內停止再回帖,老實講,再有回帖,我會不客氣地刪除,好讓爭拗平淡下來,我嘛 ~ 都想攞返個彩!如有不認同,請在伸訴版直接與我對話。」


本人到此地歩再說話,當然絕對不會討好。不過,網站守則:「發言語帶攻擊、侮辱、譏諷、挑釁、單打、假設性、使用粗言穢語、批評他/她人樣貌或使用所謂嘅近音粗口批評他人。觸犯上述守則,將會被扣分、刪帖、禁言、禁訪或直接刪除帳戶處理。」


以下的言論有沒有觸犯以上的網站守則,還望閣下回應:


「大家慳返啖氣啦!各位行街比狗咬會唔會咬返佢呀?算吧啦!




「為的是要展現學識淵博??? 哈哈, 你連""字都未識典解喎! 看扁你???........哈哈, 我相信呢樣係事實, 亦係大家心目中對你嘅睇法.
網上各樣文化平台多如牛毛你唔去, 光臨魚網自有你嘅目的, 你唔駛答,我都唔想知. 咁果d戀童呀, 變態呀, SM.....d平台你有無去呢? 多口問句啫, 你都唔好答我喎, 我真係無興趣知.
小弟少年時~ 詩詞歌賦, 琴棋書畫, 四書五經, 八國外語.....等等, 盡得老師真傳, 自問無人能望及項背.  ( 哈哈! 唔信咪7. )............當我知道自認為博學之人都會被統稱為"馬桶"的時候, - 人類習慣如厠看書,最後"馬桶"受益.......自始, 我才甘願做回一個市井之徒.
哈哈, 故仔講完, 現今科技發達, "馬桶都識抽水lu" 真係陰敬, 陰敬.
師兄, 釣友, 抽水哥, 馬桶哥, 抽水馬桶哥.......行文欠稱呼, 請恕小弟仍未諗好用邊個稱謂語好d, sorry!
以上只屬小弟個人睇法, 亦無乜補充鳥.
小弟事忙, 無三五七日都唔會覆post, 所以各位喜則加兩分, 惡則伸訴區自便. 哈哈哈!



flyfisher 發表於 3/9/2012 07:02:58 | 顯示全部樓層 IP:- 香港
本帖最後由 flyfisher 於 2012-9-3 08:34 編輯

師兄,對以上投訴,我不想多費唇舌特意解釋。自從你加入魚樂網後所衍生的爭拗,多不勝數。與你交惡的網友亦為數不少。大多網友對你過往紀錄也非常清楚。細心想一想你便可知壹貳。在網上空間與從未見面的"朋友"對話,以你學識理應知道不能隨意批評,或加插令人反感說話。自持己見,當仁不讓,絕非他人可接受。言語間更無需窮追猛打討公道。在他人帖子中,令樓主感覺到你在喧賓奪主,甚至強詞奪理。你有顧及他人感受嗎?

再者,在他人對你作出投訴及經本人秉公處理後,有需要在帖內矯枉過正地指人不是,違反網規,以幼稚,戇居,無聊等語責怪他人嗎?師兄,如果,每事能做到適可而止,能退則退,各人對你定當另眼相看。甚麼是強權,甚麼是公理,不打自通!

尤記得網主"爆叔"亦曾在 - 魚樂網講不講道理? - 一帖內勸籲你在談套上作出更改,言詞間以和為貴。看似你還未能做得到。

師兄,我阻止你在該帖再發言,只望為爭拗降溫,告一段落,持續下去對各方面都無好處。再增加多不友善對話更非我想。希望你能明白。

最後,我不能改變他人對你的歧見,能做得到的是靠你日後的言行。如果你還是要一意孤行,魚樂網絕對不適合你。
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 樓主| ygz1992 發表於 3/9/2012 11:25:19 | 顯示全部樓層 IP:- 香港
本帖最後由 ygz1992 於 2012-9-3 15:11 編輯


As expected, your judgment is full of crap and is a disgrace.  I am really disappointed in you and you should be ashamed of yourself. How could you possibly endorse or ignore the personal insults and attacks launched on me by two pieces of shit by saying that I deserve them? Are you insinuating that a culprit, convict, suspect or an inmate does not have the right to  a fair trial in court? In my case, I might have been condescending, critical or even judgmental, but have I ever launched personal attacks or insults on anybody? Am I being punished even I play within the boundary of your rules?

You didn't judge by the malicious contents of the responses but by to whom they were addressed. You were biased, unfair and did not have the moral courage to judge impartially.

Let's mark today as the day you lost your integrity and morality.

Let's mark today as the day that vice prevails in your forum.

An old fisherman doesn't die, he just fades away.

Do whatever you want to do, I don't really give a damn.
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flyfisher 發表於 3/9/2012 14:34:16 | 顯示全部樓層 IP:- 香港
ygz1992 發表於 2012-9-3 11:25
As expected, your judgment is full of crap and is a disgrace.  I am really disappointed in you and ...


Your reply well noted and I find it truly entertaining. Can't agree more with you that you are condescending, critical, and, judgemental. Perhaps, I should add that you are self-centred, arrogant, as well as argumentative. Your behaviour have absolutely no respect to nobody. I , myself, am yet to find another person with similar personality like you personally.

Call me anything you pleased and it will not change my arbitration.

A final word of advice:

It is unwise to be too sure of one's wisdom. It is healthy to be reminded that the strongest might weaken, and the wiser might err.

Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony.


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 樓主| ygz1992 發表於 3/9/2012 15:58:31 | 顯示全部樓層 IP:- 香港
本帖最後由 ygz1992 於 2012-9-3 16:10 編輯
flyfisher 發表於 2012-9-3 14:34
Your reply well noted and I find it truly entertaining. Can't agree more with you that you are co ...


It is plain to see that you are lacking good arguments and you cannot put forward a rationale in defending your judgment which is in every sense biased and unfair. It was a blatant lie when you said that the personal insults and attacks were arguable. You knew damn well they were not.



I’ve decided to give you a break and not to demand your further explanation. Your forum is not a courtroom and you are not qualified to be a judge. I didn’t have high expectation of you to uphold justice, nor did I expect you to rule in accordance with your conscience and integrity, anyway. I just wanted to vent my rage.



I am sorry if I offended you.
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flyfisher 發表於 3/9/2012 22:29:59 | 顯示全部樓層 IP:- 香港
本帖最後由 flyfisher 於 2012-9-3 22:45 編輯
ygz1992 發表於 2012-9-3 15:58
It is plain to see that you are lacking good arguments and you cannot put forward a rationale in d ...

My Posting #3 and #4 clearly stated all facts which I am not going to repeat here. They are there for all to judge and not myself only. I have previously received private messages not once but many from different people with complaints about your behaviour, and words of insults from you causing quite a stir in various posts. You called me a blatant liar and attacked my integrity and morality, which, I have not mentioned earlier. You offended not just myself but all in the forum. Isn't that a joke now saying you are sorry?

Further dialogue between yourself and myself on the subject deemed unnecessary.
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